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We chat with an avid tech entrepreneur who managed to build his startup ideas while working at a bank! That explains why he's an experienced nihilistic driven entrepreneur! He has built two companies called Tribe Rewards (https://triberewards.io) and fikaTime (https://fikatime.app) and We chat how he was inspired to build these companies, choosing the right team, and executing it. And to round it off, we ask the philosophical question: What's more real? Mind or Matter?
TCL EP8 - One-on-one talk with Jarrod Gabriel, startup entrepreneur.